How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

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ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

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From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Do you think some men have sex with prostitutes because they're too afraid to talk to women? Money does the talking for them.

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ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Why are there posts saying the T in LGBT should be dropped? With what is happening in the US and beyond against the trans community cause for concern that if this is accepted could it be deemed acceptable to start on the LGB community again?

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

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These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

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ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

Is anal sex allowed in Islam? It's not written anywhere in the Quran whether it's forbidden or not.

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

How mentally ill are Republicans who think Trump is mentally sane? He literally said immigrants eat pets.

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

Why don't I want to talk to my girlfriend when she loves me a lot? I feel bored.

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

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I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

So I’m getting piano lessons and my teacher wants me to get an upright piano instead of a keyboard. An upright piano is way above my price range, so what do I do? And what’s the difference between an upright piano and a keyboard?

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

Now here in this verse

NOW…

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

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Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

I am like a fish out of water,

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

Sain (a barber)

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

then who is there to know what happens without?

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

Kabir (a weaver)

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

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Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

CONCLUSION:

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?